How can data—their compositions, movements, and journeys through human activities and nonhuman surroundings—be visualized? This is the central question explored in Data Shadows, a film collaboration by artist Jacob van der Beugel, philosopher Sabina Leonelli, and filmmaker Oliver Page. Data Shadows is on show at RAMM during Art Week Exeter, 10-15 June 2025. Join Jacob and Philosopher of Science Prof Adrian Currie from the University of Exeter for this in conversation, discussing the importance of demystifying data as immutable. How can our work and interactions with data be guided by more sustainable values? What principles and values guide our decisions with data? And at which points in the data journey must we intervene, as humans, to foster more sustainable and resilient data practices?