For Eamon Murtagh and Deb Grant, most music podcasts rarely hit the right notes. ‘American music podcasts tended to be really reverential and serious,’ Murtagh says. ‘They’re always like, “when David Bowie landed in Berlin, the world changed”, and it makes my skin crawl when I hear stuff like that. We didn’t want a super serious approach. And we didn’t want the kind of combative one-upmanship that you often hear on podcasts about music.’

What Goes Around grew from a desire to make a music pod that was an unpretentious celebration of the musical world. ‘We wanted to celebrate what it feels like to be a fan of music,’ said Murtagh. ‘A lot of the podcasts we’ve listened to were very much about the artists while we’re more about music lovers.’ Their enthusiasm has attracted some very special guests, including Sleaford Mods frontman Jason Williamson, comedian Jo Caulfield and punk polymath Lydia Lunch, inviting them to discuss how music has made them laugh, cry and altered their outlook on life.

‘If you can get someone talking about their memories of music then their guard comes down. You’re tapping into their fandom. An interview becomes less like an interrogation and more like a discussion. That’s what we wanted.’ Despite booking some real heavyweights, Murtagh still has a dream guest on his own hit parade. ‘I’ve yet to find a way to contact her, but I’d love to interview Emily Eavis, the co-organiser of Glastonbury. Here’s a woman who’s grown up immersed in all this music, met all these incredible people and taken over the biggest show on earth. She’s steered Glastonbury in new directions and taken flak for it. She must have had so much pushed into her brain from different angles after all the experiences and acts she’s heard for decades.’

In a recent episode, Grant discusses relistening to heavy metal with her new partner and feeling as though a ‘door had opened in her mind’. It sums up the modus operandi of What Goes Around: the white-hot joy of discovering a new genre or deep diving into the songs you love with open-hearted eagerness. ‘We never try to talk down, and we try not to be mean about music,’ enthused Murtagh. ‘We’re there for the fans. If you listen to people talk about something they love, it gives you that same warm feeling.’

New episodes of What Goes Around are available monthly.